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Behind the spoons - Background and FAQ

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Re: Behind the spoons - Background and FAQ

Postby glinka57 on Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:43 pm

Ah GrandMaster, your effort is beautifull, your concience is beautifull, our forum is good

I have never let my schooling interfere with my education. -Mark Twain-

Your videos are like a stepping stone, and are priceless. I am sure most of us agree.

those thanks you were getting were not empty or made by unsincere people. on behalf of them and us, let me 'inform you' what the thanks are for.

It is for moving us past the point of noob inertia.
this inertia is a natural inertia. some overcome it with will and great vision, some due necesity others by being helped. your videos are the 3rd case..
and the laws of inertia still apply after we have been moved! and this is the important point

[Inertia: i) a stationary object will remain stationary unless influenced by an external force and
ii) a moving object will continue moving at the same speed and direction (forever) unless influenced be an external force
]

you never advertised. We 'were' seeking, and we found, and told you thanks.. in short, a stepping stone like I said..
There is a Zen saying that "No snowflake falls in an inappropriate place"
Remember this one: "The ready noob mind is shouting 'What questions should I ask" and thus the conundrum and the situation confuses him and he becomes distressed..

On a forum I asked a question: what is Honor. a friend wrote

Honour is a choice made daily:

*When we choose what is better for another over what is easier for ourselves.

*When we choose to take a stand because it is the right thing, but not the popular thing, to do.

*When we choose to admit our faults, even though it is painful.

*When we choose to act, even though we are afraid, and are uncertain of ourselves.

*When we choose to reach out in compassion, even though it costs us.

*When we choose to be silent, when we could lash out in anger and hatred.

*When we choose all of these things, with no expectation of recognition or reward.....

That is honour.


This forum should remain free.
and this winter will be awsome,
heck Ive been writing this response on and off for 2 hours dame gtg play some rts before its late , I'll write more tomorow
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Re: Behind the spoons - Background and FAQ

Postby chedder on Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:25 pm

Firstly I would just like to say how much I enjoyed reading your post, and I thank you for all the time you put into it.

During your videos you have taught myself and everyone else watching your videos not simply to learn. Not just to memorize some code. Not just to copy it down, but you have taught us how to learn, to be independent. You videos have become a platform, from which we can build our experience. You make us want to learn more, to discover new things. To be like you. I am sure that after reading this lots of people will see you as a role model. As someone to look up to. You made it, and so shall I. And you stopped, turned around, and offered a hand to those behind you, to try and make the journey you made easier for others.

You single-handedly raise a community of friends learning.

I am also glad to read that you have a life, that you haven't chained yourself to the spoon-feed series and the forums. Everyone has their limits, and many peoples would be lower than yours. And don't feel bad about your interest swings, everyone needs a break, one where you can forget about the worry s.

But onto your question about money. Is there any way to stop pirating, such as have the vids on your site, and only when you type in a password you get to watch them? Is it the sort of thing that could be done easily and cheaply, as I have seen it on other sites. I think a lot of people (me included) would pay for videos, such as another series about the graphic end of things or something. But I think you should keep the current videos free for two reasons, one as they could easily be pirated as I am sure many have downloaded them and two it would attract more people to the series.

Thanks again for posting
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Re: Behind the spoons - Background and FAQ

Postby antiRTFM on Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:57 am

Thanks so much for your feedbabk ppl!
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Re: Behind the spoons - Background and FAQ

Postby tsimpson on Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:07 am

When I found your vids on youtube i was so happy. I have a learning difficulty and your vids have helped me understand a lot more in one vid than what my lecturer has ever. I have to repeat my year because i just wasnt understanding what i was doing and felt my tutor was one of the RTFM crowd. Them vids are excatly what i was looking for.

I now feel more confedent to crack on with my projects and can truely say that others on this sight are very helpful as well (thanks noobgammer for pointing out something to me i did not know could even be).
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Re: Behind the spoons - Background and FAQ

Postby Kasbar on Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:35 pm

antiRTFM I have great respect for you. I knew you was a noob even though I was a noob when I first looked at your videos! I also learnt some stuff from you, which I believe benefited me.
I am not a fan of programming forums and I have read through some, I never asked questions as I know how to search, I like to mention that your videos are wonderful. I mean this in my heart. I consider myself an intermediate now! I am quickly learning programming and becoming rather good!

I like to mention that most people in those forums are full of shit, they know just as much as me and you I bet, they are trying to impress you. A real pro would behave like me, we would say nothing to a noob if we do not want to answer your question as we think they have been lazy. Not make fun of you and try to make ourselves look smarter than we actually are! Trust me, they have revealed have stupid they are by making fun of you!(to the real pro's they want to impress)

You are a good man. I like to mention this to you, I hope it benefits you. You cannot make perfect programs trust me that is impossible! You try your best to make good readable code, with few bugs! Remember though bugs is what is going to happen. even the best software can be hacked, exploited. You make your program bit by bit, you still need to plan before hand if it is a big project. Every little feature you add, may need to be debugged and that is the most time consuming thing you can do in programming! You should never expect pro work! You are hurting your process if you do, make the best thing you can.

Pros do not want to help noobs(This does not mean they act like an arse and poke fun at the noobs). I just know that they won't have time to do so, if they do have little time are they going to spend it on you? (I think they have their own, unwinding time or are busy helping people they know) I never expected them to help me. I lack a good tip every now and then, which I would have loved, but am self taught and I will have to learn it myself though experience :( (which is learnt from making shit programs :P) and books.
I hope you continue with your dream to become a great programmer, if I happen to make it myself, I will teach you or at least try!

For the people that are trying to learn. I like to


For starters book I would tell people to read is :-

C++ A beginner's Guide. - Herbert Schildt (Am sure Microsoft has this book on their website,)

I do not understand why some people love this book :-

Accelerated C++ Practical Programming by Example.

I could be cruel with this book, it is not suitable for beginners I will rest it at that, it is not wrong and you will learn from it, but it will slow you down, better go with Herbert's book out of the 2 :).

That is all the starters books I have. I have others, but not for this level of forum I don't think.
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Re: Behind the spoons - Background and FAQ

Postby Vevix on Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:45 am

What's with the attitude?

A real pro would behave like me

What? Why are you calling yourself a 'pro'? Do you work in the field? Do you have code to show?

Also what is the definition of 'pro'? There is so much to C++

Are we talking about someone who has a great understanding of the STL/C++ Standard
Windows API & Linux?
The Above + External Libraries (Boost, etc..)

Pros do not want to help noobs

Sorry, This just isn't true.

I've been coding C++ for so many years and I work as a programmer, Yet I still have > 80 posts here and help people out and at the same time pumping out my own code for work/personal projects.
C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg. -- Bjarne Stroustrup
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Re: Behind the spoons - Background and FAQ

Postby Kasbar on Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:29 am

It was rather late and I made some what seemed harsh comments if taken to far. I said antiRTFM is a noob which he is not. I remembered first watching his videos it seemed to me he was using them as a learning aid. He did a great set of videos and anyone that disagrees is in my eyes is going a little over the top with details.

Vevix before picking quotes and fitting to how you want to see them, please read my post I never claimed am a pro, I am still learning to program, I reckon I am intermediate now, as I can debug my programs and write window apps pretty well(which is easier than you will believe, don’t jump to it yet though if your still wanting the videos). I tried a little of directx(I have tried all sorts of
Libraries too, only in small detail) I am going to leave this out for a little while and sit back and go over the basics again. I have a nice big picture knowledge now, so I am going to go into details.


Pros do not want to help noobs, that quote says they don’t want to help noobs, but don’t take it as complete face value. I never meant to mean ALL pros don't that would be stupid to even think to say. Although I meant it as a general amount of pros. How far would you go to help a noob? You would not write the entire program would you? That is what some may noobs want. It is not that I am been mean to the noobs, but writing a complete program is no way helping them! If they have an issue with a program I will make it work, not rewrite it completely so it looks perfectly readable code(bug free and completely perfect(nothing perfect, you get the point)). I will add advise telling them what knowledge to try and get in order to improve their code another step.

So you don't get me wrong by pro I meant people what work at it as a living. So you’re a pro! Nice to meet you LOL, perhaps if you do not mind you can give me the points I really like sometimes. Although I am not going to ask often I don't think am used to working alone :(.
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Re: Behind the spoons - Background and FAQ

Postby glinka57 on Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:31 pm

Kasbar: your post is clear to anyone who has dealt with this kind of thing, Antirtfm included. sometimes I cant understand you Vevix.
Those "HARSH WORDS" you refer to are a HUGE UNDERSTATEMENT, the frustration of wanting to learn something which for them would be simple, and that you intend to look into fully afterward anyhow, and that they just cannot or will not tell you, and instead give you the run about, and respond with some garbled arcana Is absolutly rediculous and 'uncalled for' but all the while you have to remind yourself that they owe you nothing and you are on your own anyway. So that is why we respect someone like antiR (and perhaps many others) when they come along. what makes this interesting is that he himself had to deal with this rubbish.
a hint of how what I mean can be found here
why-is-it-so-rediculously-complex-to-play-vedeo-in-a-window-t644.html
or here
change-the-color-of-console-text-t661.html
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Re: Behind the spoons - Background and FAQ

Postby Vevix on Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:52 pm

Pros do not want to help noobs, that quote says they don’t want to help noobs, but don’t take it as complete face value. I never meant to mean ALL pros don't that would be stupid to even think to say.


My mistake then, But without being specific like that in your first post it is quite easily mistaken.

glinka57 If you don't understand something why not look it up?

I'm a self taught coder, When I started learning there wasn't forums around like this - I had to refer to the manuals/api documentations (MSDN etc..) Instead of complaining about how MSDN "doesn't make sense" why not look into what you don't understand - Once you do you will understand it.

You linked two threads, One which doesn't even have a reply - I even went and installed your GDK library to check the API and got back to you on the DarkVideo?

As for the Colored console? I told you how to improve the code (const, std::string / char*) and showed you an alternate method - You're the one who wouldn't accept that help.

the frustration of wanting to learn something which for them would be simple


Do you think I look at a page of a new subject/library and instantly understand it? I read books/documentation/tutorials just as you do.
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Re: Behind the spoons - Background and FAQ

Postby glinka57 on Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:34 pm

Vevix yes, as always with you I stand corrected. but the inate noob frustration is still real. no mountain is easily climbed.
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